I have heard that if you establish yourself as the leader of the pack, your dog will be better behaved.

How is this accomplished?

I know that I have heard this as well. I am actually getting ready to buy a book by Ceasar Milan (sp?) that I was told touches on this very subject. I think like with a lot of wild animals they are accustomed to running in packs and following a "leader" so-to-speak and so I would imagine the following would be key things to do: Using a stern voice to let them know who is in command; demanding obedience if your dog does not mind make him (never hit your dog that breeds mistrust); Make them do stuff such as sitting calmly while you put on their collar or leash or make them move when they lie in your way - these things all show your dog that you are alpha and in the leader role.

(13-08-2008 08:25 AM)Simplyme Wrote:  I know that I have heard this as well. I am actually getting ready to buy a book by Ceasar Milan (sp?) that I was told touches on this very subject. I think like with a lot of wild animals they are accustomed to running in packs and following a "leader" so-to-speak and so I would imagine the following would be key things to do: Using a stern voice to let them know who is in command; demanding obedience if your dog does not mind make him (never hit your dog that breeds mistrust); Make them do stuff such as sitting calmly while you put on their collar or leash or make them move when they lie in your way - these things all show your dog that you are alpha and in the leader role.

Do you ever wonder if these maneuvers can be used to control other humans as well? I know a few poorly behaved fellows that could use a little training.

LOL!

LOL that would be nice wouldn't it if you could simply use this on fellow humans. Definitely save a lot of time and frustration over the methods we have now.

Here is a Link to The Dog Whisperer's Website, This will explain how to accomplish this. http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/

Hi there , you better hope the people on dogsey don't see this post.

They don't like Cesar , or the pack rule stuff.I originally posted on there regarding my free service and boy , well i think i may have won what became a witch hunt (lol).

They were incredily rude about me anyway and my web site.

why is it people always want to attack and hurt those that are well different, shouldn't we all support, and hope for new and improved ways in which the dogs in this world can only benifit from.?

Hey To all my name is Billy and i am a canine behaviourist (well have no qualifications) ut expeirince by the bucket load:-)
The problem with behaviourist s and trainers is they tick the boxes because they have all done the courses , yeah for them, but to get to problem you have to use something inside ,that goes beyond knowledge.An inner understanding.

Behaviorists and trainers will say a dog does this because , It's called humanisation , we are trying to explain a behaviour , so we will understand it better,it maybe completely opposite , but we do so we can understand, most people have lost there natruall ability to use or understand the inner instincts , so most behaviourists and trainer fail.


Do we speak dog ? no , So why do they think because a book says xyz they are right?



I think perhaps i may be a freak of nature (lol) , well a little diffrent anyway.

please check out my web site and if anyone every does get stuck

http://www.letsgowalkies.net is where you can fine me .
Have a great day .Sorry if there are a few spelling errors , i can't be good at everything

(05-06-2009 10:46 AM)Billy1111 Wrote:  Hi there , you better hope the people on dogsey don't see this post.

They don't like Cesar , or the pack rule stuff.I originally posted on there regarding my free service and boy , well i think i may have won what became a witch hunt (lol).

They were incredily rude about me anyway and my web site............................

Caesar Milan & most of the celebrity "behaviourizts" all sing from the same hymn sheet of the human needing to be the pack Alpha, grounding their theory/method on now debunked artificial captive wolf pack studies.

No one actually needs to"dominate" their dog(s)& dogs do not want to dominate humans, they are aware that we humans are not dogs, the same way they know cats, birds, horses are not dogs & that we can never form a pack with them.

Even in real wild Wolf packs the breeding pair do not need to dominate the other wolves, why ? because all other members of the pack are their direct offspring. There is no rivalry for breeding rights because the only members that breed are the eldest & the parents. There is no "Alpha"rolling of lower ranked members, there are no fights over food as seen in zoo & safari parks, where the wolves are fed & do not have to hunt.

The relationship between humans & their pets is that of provider & receiver & is mutualistic.

We should set boundaries of behaviour by rewarding the behaviour that is acceptable from the outset of our relationship with our dogs & ignoring that which isn't acceptable. Dogs quickly pick up on what brings them rewards & what doesn't, there is no need for force, pain or harsh corrections using the various pinch, illusion, e or choke collars. There is no need to give food & take it away to stop resource guarding.

I'm not a behaviourist I'm just a plain ordinary dog trainer, who for over 40 years has used reward based training methods.

Interestingly Victoria Stillwell no longer supports domination methods !